Best ways to clean/remove hair? Living with it tips?

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  1. hihihi

    hihihi New Member

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    So I went to the doctor again today to have her check out the pits, cause I was freaking out about them, and she said that she usually waits for 2 or 3 flare ups before she does the cleft lift. I guess I'm ok with this, especially because I'm in school, but she suggested that I try to remove the hair in the area. What is the best way to do this? I will be doing it myself and I have found that shaving is too difficult. Is Nair ok? Does anyone have experience with it even with pits and scar tissue (from previous lancing)? Also, what soap is best to clean the area?

    Any tips or advice on how you keep your pilonidal from flaring up would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
     
  2. Tonster

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    A nurse told me waxing would be a bad idea as that is known to cause ingrown hairs which is exactly what we want to avoid.

    Laser Surgery sounds like the answer... but expensive unless you can justify it as a medically required procedure. I'm still considering it.

    EDIT FEB 21 2016
    My new plan is to use a Hair/Nose trimmer with built in vacuum, uses 1 AA battery. Brandname one around $30US, (I'd recommend buying two though if you plan to do your ears/nose as well)

    Tony
     
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  3. such_is_life24

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    Haven't tried it, so don't take my word for it, but my surgeon mentioned Nair or shaving. From the way she said it, she seemed in favor of Nair.

    I use an electric shaver. Easiest way I found to do this, was plop a small trash can on the closed toilet and just go to town. I check my work in the mirror lol. However, I'm always a little worried each time I shave because I don't want ingrown hairs.

    In my experience, despite shaving, my cyst would sometimes get sore and sensitive to the touch. I'm not sure if this qualifies as a flare up, but yeah there's that. I truly am curious as to why doctors recommend removing hair. Perhaps someone else more knowledgeable can chime in.

    In case you haven't seen this, here are some tips on living with it, and hair removal. These are good reads, definitely check them out.
     
  4. hihihi

    hihihi New Member

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    Thanks for the advice. I have tried shaving it with a little electric shaver before, but as a female I've found it too difficult because the hairs are almost invisible. Does anyone have any recommendations on soaps to try?
     
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    You can use Nair. Try a small patch first. We tried the Nair for sensitive skin for my son but he had a reaction to it. You can also use Hibiclens to wash with but be careful because it can be very drying.
     
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    Hi such is life... I still haven't had any hair removal. But the reason it is recommended is because these cysts are believed to be caused by hair follicle infections. (Follicular occlusion tetrad). Laser surgery kills the hair follicle so I can imagine why that is recommended, I'm not sure why shaving and waxing are recommended but it seems to be commonly accepted... personally I'm just going to be 'anal' about cleanliness (clorhexadrine) until I can consider the laser treatment.
     
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    After my Pit Picking surgery I used wax strips followed by exfoliating the area with an exfoliator glove in the shower (I still do this every couple of weeks) and haven't had any issues....

    I avoid shaving because that seemed to bring on my first flareup...this can also create cuts in the skin.

    As Tonster said laser would be ideal.
     
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    Hi Tonster how you doing bro.? I hope you are feeling better
     
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    Hey ya!
    I've always used Nair on that area. Just becarful because it can burn you a bit if you have a reaction to it. I always buy the sensitive skin one. Works like a charm.
     
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  10. William

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    some reasons for hair removal. . What I remember reading some where on the site is that hair for example can grow out and back into the skin possible the adjacent area or back into pit.. lose hair lint and debree can also finds its way into the pits. siting up and down creates vacuum and pressure in return can pull out hair and push what ever into pit. I will edit this post when I reread and post where I have came up with all this.

    For people with open wound after a flare up trim any hair that can possiable lay over and heal into the skin. opposite side if hair comes in contact with wound via rubbing shave hair back to where they are not stubby and sharp. Goal is to keep hair out of wound if you have one and hair out and away from pit

    BECAREFULL Get a loved one or friend to HELP. You need to be careful not to get any hair in a wound and try to keep away from pits so the hair you remove to prevent issues wont cause issues.

    I am still in debate and don't know what direction on what to do about hair removal
     
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  11. Farid

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    Still dont understand why the hair should be removed coz some pilo suffers are hairless and still get pilo , I dont know it could be !?!, but what I really dont understand is shaving the hair so how shaving it prevent the pilonidal to form ?in other words if the hair grown out of the skin how it will came back to the skin and form a pilo ? endless this disease really sucks , sorry about my words
     
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    Farid - your confusion is understandable. The pits do indeed come from hair follicles, but the hairs that get caught in the pits are loose hairs that get caught in the cleft, and find their way into the enlarged pore. Although shaving may decrease the number of hairs available to find their way into the pit - hairs from anywhere on the body can also be shed and find they way into the gluteal cleft. So, even women with very minimal body hair can also have pilonidal cysts.

    If a patient is trying to avoid surgery, hair removal strategies may be helpful, althougth not a complete solution. I do not recommend hair removal in my patients who have had a successful cleft-lift procedure. One has to weigh the pros and cons of surgical vs nonsurgical treatment, and this is just one of the factors.
     
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    Thanks Doctor Immerman for the explanation which it does makes sinse.
    Very interesting how this evil disease play it's nasty role in human been's life , and how it left us with some foggy knowledge, but thank God they are some life savers who promptly solve the puzzle , in spite of the old procedures the majority of Doctors still wont update their technique which is logically just to find the causes first then fix the problem, also the health system should officially claim that the Cleft-Lift is a golden procedure for the Pilonidal abscess to save a lot of sufferers from the long misery road. however not that easy for some of us to get the proper surgery like my case I was planing to travel to have it done (cleft-lift) but a massive amount of bills from the other surgeries got me for real so I decided to go for the open wound surgery , what a horror !! anyway I hope all goes well .
    Again Thanks to all of you .
     
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    What I don't get is that I guess a lot of us Pilonidal cases have unique little dimples or pores along our tailbone. I have. And I honestly can't remember if I've had them for my entire life. But isn't there any way to constrict them, so stray hairs do not get inside and lead to debilitating infections. I saw Fibrin might be like this, but I am fairly new to this condition and haven't looked into it. What about a skin graft? I really don't want to get a major recovery and take months off my life. I am a very active and outdoorsy person. *I just wanted to add another question. Could things other than hair irritate the sinus and lead to infection such as lint from clothing?

    I think my first flare up wasn't infected. It hurt but not like this last time. I needed tylenol. I hadn't taking a pain reliever since 2011 July when I broke my foot. It did wonders for me, and I don't remember it being that strong. I can't imagine take percs or vicodin or above. For that reason, getting it lanced for me just isn't worth, (especially if it can't be done when it's seriously inflamed). I didn't put any salves on it, but I considered having something available at home if this happens again. I did the hot baths, and after drying off I wiped the wound with raw ACV and occasionally I'd put a high grade, raw, unprocessed buckwheat honey (sometimes mixed with turmeric, cayenne, other healing herbs). But I really think the ice bag pissed it off. I'd just leave it on till the ice melted (about an hour). Numbed the pressure, neutralized the burning. Finally, it just worked its full through and erupted, leaving a pencil wide caldera.

    Like many others, I've read about this came out of nowhere for me. My latest flair-up showed without any warning signs. I just woke and WTF'd. I am not overweight. I'm 6' 185-90, lean muscle. I exercise usually 3-4 times a week at my house. I've always been a healthy eater, and I don't think I could have eaten better than I have in the previous two months. On the exercise note again, I have noticed for a long time that sometimes my tailbone does feel a little tender if I sit-ups/crunches. I was doing them, but stopped a week before my flare-up and just incorporated some core-strengthening yoga moves that doesn't involve that kind of grinding motion of the coccyx.
     
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    I am 12 days out of surgery and already decided I will be getting laser hair removal once the stitches are out. I will also get my back waxed regularly and try to manage the hair falling off my head (maybe rinse my hair morning and night?). I want to give myself the best possible chance to beat the disease, so by spending the time and money to keep the area completely clean and hair free are well worth it to me if it helps to decreases your chances of having repeat surgery.
     
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    I've had laser hair removal. Nothing to do with pilonidal. Have had it done on my face. ( I'm a girl and vain) I ended up buying a home laser. Pricey, but when you add up professional sessions, cost effective. Plus, so much easier to keep on the schedule at home. The hair has to be at the right stage of growth to be permanently removed. That why you need multiple sessions every 4-6 weeks, then just maintainence. I got my home unit from TriaBeauty.com when it was on sale.

    Works best on light skin/ dark hair. And it is NOT painless. Fine, little peach fuzz hair just goes "poof". No problem. A course, dark hair? It feels like a rubber band snapping on your skin. Complete with a zapping noise and smell of burnt hair. I can't imagine a man with a dark haired bum. But it works. The follicles that died will rise to surface in a day or so. Exfoliate. But gentle. You want to coax the follicle out but without damage.
     
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    Do you have pilonidal disease ? have you use this on the area? if so how do you use it on the natal cleft ? Thx
     
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    I have an abscess with a sinus tract to the top left of my cleft. Not sure if it's pilonidal or Hidadentis Suppurative, which I have. I don't have hair in this area. So, No, I have not used the laser hair removal on my behind.
     
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