I'm new and I got tons of questions to ask !

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    Alright to start off I'll write something about me .. My name is Dejan and I'm from Europe more precisely from Bosnia and Herzegovina and I'm 17 years old. So far I was doing good and it was all going nice and smooth. but 1 month ago problems started.. I had my surgery on 9th of April 2009. so It's been more then 4 months since my surgery.. Since my cousin is a nurse I had no problems with anything (anything really,she took good care of me and my wound) as planned I got my stiches out etc and everything was great I had closed incision surgery (the one when they close upper part and leave bottom part of wound to heal on it's own- that's it I guess) Everything was fine but after surgeon took my stiches out day after that I sat on chair just a little bit less SLOWLY and I felt something and that something was serous fluid (or something lke that) comming out my wound,I immediately called my cousin and we went to ER and doctor there said that everything is gonna be alright and that I only needed to watch out for my wound and etc .. well that time is past now and I won't write long story about that I'm more in search for advice for my situation today. just to mention I had 3-4 appoitments with my surgeon and every time he said it's great and there shouldn't be any problems.
    After I had my last control when surgeon told me that I could start with "normal" activities again I was feeling great next morning I started jogging and I was jogging without break every morning 15 days from that and I played football at night .. that got my bottom part of my wound opened again after that the doctor (not surgeon) told me to keep off any harder physical activities cause of swelling. I was again goin regulary to my local ambulance and changing gauzes etc etc .. and wound closed so I stopped goin that was at start of July.. and I was doing good 15 days and 3 days ago I found out that my wound has opened again . now I'm more confused than disturbed with it coz summer is slowly comming to end and I'm not able to do anything but sit and walk ! I can't swim,play football,run,and I'm really ****** up :D.. Did anyone had problem such as mine,the "persistant opening of the wound with closed incision" the part where "stiches" were is looking extremely good and no problems at all .. I was reading all around this site and forums,I saw some "cleft lift" I wanna get more familiar with that and I just wanna speak with someone who has same problem as I do !

    Sorry for language and not very detailed story .. It might even sound long and confusing but that's what I have to say ! :D [X(]
    Well I hope that I'll get some answers ! I'll post all questions when I remember those :D and if you read the story you can write what you think and give me some advices !
     
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    Hello Dejan & welcome to the forum

    This is quite funny actually as i think I have had the same surgery as you but it was my 2nd surgery as I have a long scar and a hole at the ending of it. I didn't know its called an closed incision.

    Anyhoo me and my surgeon are against closed surgery as you have a lot of complications. If you want you can see all the posts made by me as I have talked a lot about closed surgery and why I hate it.

    I had the same exact problem both my wounds used to heal not completely but they used to granulate and go small but then they used to start bleeding and open again. This happened countless times I cannot even tell you how many times. I had another wound at the top so I had 2 wounds and they both did this for months. Eventually I had my 3rd operation on my top wound which closed from the top 1 month later and goes red and hurts a little but no problem. The hole both of us have that was deliberately left open at surgery closed 2 -3 days later (I know [x0x]) I was literally like this [x0x][x0x] and shocked excited.

    What I used to get it closed I took all the nutrients from my diet and I used to eat manuka honey. I also used a medical grade activon tube thats just honey that you can apply to you wounds. I think both types of honey's were responsible for me healing.
     
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    Thanks for responding.. of course I'll have to pay it,even if I want to pay it I can't get it cause I'm livin' in BOSNIA :(

    I'm getting worried about this .. I don't know what to do .. I'm not in good mood to lie in hospital again (not even 1 day) and all I want is to live like before surgery :( do you think that I'll be able to ride a bike? or go jogging? or I'm really stuck with "resting and taking care of myself" [:^]

    Anyway if I apply for new surgery or anything I will probably w8 few months because Bosnian system is one of "best in the world" when you look from behind :mad:


    So you actually just ate honey? or applied it to your wound' (rofl) .. Maybe I could try to use some bosnian honey (it's cheap and original you know) haha!

    how long did you eat that honey? and used that tube (honey tube) rofl? are u back to rl life again? or still havin problems? how long did it take !?
     
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    The answer to your question no you will not be able to go for a bike ride or jogging depending on how long post op you are? I have healed but it still opens a tiny little bit (if I was to explain to you how small it opens like a pea sized cut) and yet I have healed and I cannot do anything.

    You will have to use the Manuka honey i don't know about the other honey you are talking. I did eat the Manuka honey and applied the special type honey used only for wounds. rofl :D
     
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    DAMN.. And what's about Swimming pools? there is "Salt lake" near my town .. you know salt water .. maybe it might be good for my wound what you think ? no way that I can get that honey if it's 50€ bottle or what :D

    I'm 4 months post op mate.. and I'm really going to freak out if I can't do anything .. what you think about GYM? :D?
     
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    I understand man really I do I didn't and still am not doing anything physical for a yr now. The reason why I suggest you don't swim yet is as you still have an open wound.

    Going to the gym you can only do upper body exercises but that is with absolutely no pressure at all to your wound. I cannot make it clear enough for you but I still don't advise the gym.

    When I was 5 months post op I went to a really big shopping centre in Manchester and that when my top healed wound looked at it was flaring up so I had another operation only to that wound not the whole pilo the other wound was fine.

    That happened because I was walking a lot just walking can do that to you so imagine going to the gym and what pressure that can do for your wound.

    You only have 1 hole don't you? As I had 2 and it took about 6 moths for the bottom wound to heal. The top wound was operated on again and healed 1 month later.

    I have been healed for 5 moths now and I still get pain and a little cut opens and bleeds and that with me being healed and I still don;t have my life back. I just wanted you to realize that you have no choice but to rest I am going through this with you in a way.
     
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    I can't believe this I really can't .. well anyhow I'll listen to your advices.. but really I'd like to go to that salt lake with my cousin if my wound close for few days? Cause most of older people visit that lake since there is something in that water and it's just "good" for people health.. but if you still stand behind that I shouldn't go there even when my wound close I'll listen to you .. in my case I wasn't about to swim 2131321 kms all I want is to go there and have a nice time with my friends and family maybe go into water for 30 min or something I won't swim or stuff like that it basicly mean that I'll walk trough that water few minutes :)

    well however I'll find some good books and start reading if I can't walk,breath,swell,play football etc etc... I mean I'm ready to take my time off the physical activities but I won't be able to control my behavior and "WILL" for doing very much physical activity for longer period .. since I got no problems /for now/ with upper part of wound(which was closed at surgery) Is there chance that I'll be able to heal for shorter time and then get back to normal life ? I'm 17 years old dude .. I can't give up walking oh my God ! IT's not normal :S I used to walk on long relations around 3-4km's even before 1 month and there weren't any problems... You think if I try to get some other kinds of "help" for my wound to treathen it with it .. like some pomades and creams etc u know what I mean .. things such that honey which is 50€ that mean I won't harm my wound? or ? and btw I wanted to ask you about showering .. cause I practice to take shower with cold water now coz its over 40°C I wanna know if it's bad for my wound . :D I only do it at summer and I use hot water at winter :D
     
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    You can walk but not for a long period of time. I have not heard of a salt late that is good for your health so i don't know if you could go there. I would advise you to do light exercises walk but walk for 10 minutes and walk slowly not too slow and not too fast.

    Just for the record I am always here to advise you what you then do is up to you. You could try an activity and see how your wound reacts to it if it reacts badly then do not do that activity that often. Try another activity and see if your wound reacts again to that activity if the wound does not react badly then slowly get into that activity.

    Its up to you to try the salt water lake as I have not heard of it. Every wound reacts different to each activity as there is a difference to how my surgeon operated on my wound and your surgeon with your wound. It our job to find out about which activity is best for our wound so I would advise you to slowy get into things and find out.
     
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    Thanks

    Thank you a lot :) I'll check it out with doctor and my cousin(nurse) and maybe I'll go there :p :) don't know yet .. but I won't be able to go swimming pool for long time right?
     
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    Its not just the hole it depends if it will put pressure on the wound. It been a long time since I have gone swimming so I don't know if it affects the wound. Ask your doctor and give it a bit more time to heal, how big is the wound?
     
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    I have had the pleasure of soaking it up at the Dead Sea in Israel, probably very much like the salt lake you are talking about. There were signs posted NOT to go in with an open wound. If you get that salt and minerals stuck in your wound, you could possibly regret it later on. Those type of bodies of water are GREAT for skin ailments and muscle aches, but not for open wounds.

    As for swimming, after my lancing, my surgeon had told me to stay out of pools if it was oozing, mostly for the sake of the other people in the pool. He had even suggested that after it was no longer oozing, it might actually be good for it. Though he did say to stay out of kiddie pools and the ocean until it had completely healed.
     
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    About the swimming. Next month we will drive into France for holidays. That will be 8 weeks after my lancing. The wound looks all healed up. Will it be safe to swim in a river? And in a swimming pool? :confused:
     
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    Well you know I don't know how big is "whole" wound (I guess it's not so small tough) but opened part is less then 0.5 mm diameter (it will close for few days) u can barely notice it lol .. I was about to swim after my wound closed.. but if water is bad that might also affect my wound etc .. I know that but that salt lake might be good if I go there with "CLOSED" wound ? :D maybe it will help it to become more strong or whatever :D

    I'll check with doctor .. :D
     
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    Kate71, I've no doubt if your wound is closed you should be able to swim. Mine is closed two months after having it lanced and I enjoyed the lovely pool on a weekend get away with my family last month - and it had only been a month at that point. Wednesday I'm taking my son to the beach. For this, I'm thinking of popping on a larger, waterproff bandage, primarily to keep the sand out.

    Enjoy your trip to France! If you'll be having surgery in a couple of months, enjoy yourself until then. That's my plan anyway. PITA be damned... I'm going to enjoy this summer and hopefully it will go away forever after my surgery in September.
     
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    So there's no problem going on salt lake IF my wound is CLOSED? :D but what about swimming pools with those "chlorid" water you know all that stuff they put in pools to keep water "clean" lol
     
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    Again, I can tell you what my surgeon said. That if the wound was not oozing, a pool might be good for it, assuming it was not a kiddie pool. If the chlorine is doing its job, than the water SHOULD be clean.

    This website states:

    Swimming -
    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica]The official line on this is NO for pools and/or lakes (icky things in the water + open wound = infection) and POSSIBLY for ocean. If you have an open wound, be smart. Salt water is good for wounds, but how clean is the water at your beach, really? We've had some doctors give the green light for ocean swimming and some say to not risk it. The one thing all agree on is NO POOLS.[/FONT]


    At this point, I just have to laugh (otherwise I'd cry in frustration), because everybody says something different. I mean, both surgeons I've consulted with said THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what the website recommends.
     
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    That's true I found that true mostly from nurses I used to ask a number of different nurses if I could shower after my operation some said yes and some said no.

    I once met an on call surgeon who said to me that I have a few pits but I can live with the pits. He told me it does not matter and its not dangerous. However my own surgeon didn't comment on this but does not like him and he certainly was not pleased with the surgery he did.
     
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    People let's keep it short !YES! or NO for salt water with CLOSED WOUND and normal water with additions(chlorine etc) with CLOSED WOUND! ! Thanks for advices anyway ! I'll try to get some honey to eat it's not manuka but it's called honey either,it might help !
     
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    Thanks to Kate71 here is more or less the same product but cheaper.

    http://www.chemistdirect.co.uk/activon-medical-grade-manuka-honey_1_12433.html
     

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