A re-occurrence

Onesorelady

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Scary right? In July, I had a cleft lift, but it was on open wound surgery, which I know has a huge re-occurrence rate. I have an appointment on Wednesday, but I'm super, super scared. I try to do research, but I can't seem to find anything that makes sense. If this is a re-occurrence, what other surgeries are my options and how will this affect my life? That last one isn't really a research question. If you've had the same surgery as I and the re-occurrence , how did it affect your everyday life?
 

Robert Eden

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I'm confused.. do you mean you had an open wound surgery and later had a cleft lift or did you just have an open excision?
 

Onesorelady

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No. The doctor told me that he was doing an open wound surgery, but he called it a cleft lift. I remember because I was super scared of going into surgery and was making jokes that my butt as going to be lifted.
 

Johnathan Irons

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No. The doctor told me that he was doing an open wound surgery, but he called it a cleft lift. I remember because I was super scared of going into surgery and was making jokes that my butt as going to be lifted.
I don't mean to be disrepectful but could you start again and be very descriptive. I'm confused.
You've only had surgery once? And it was a cleft lift? Or wide excision?
 

Onesorelady

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I don't mean to be disrepectful but could you start again and be very descriptive. I'm confused.
You've only had surgery once? And it was a cleft lift? Or wide excision?
I got the cyst back in March. Didn't go to the doctor for a month or so. Finally went and was referred to a surgical clinic near the town I live in. When I went to go see my doctor, he said that it was more of an abscess than a cyst. More of a sinus, an opening into the body. He then suggested me taking baths more than once a day for about an hour. When that didn't work, I went back in and he told me that the only option was surgery. So, there were two options. Close and open surgery. Closed, because my cyst/sinus was so big, wasn't really an option. So he told me that he would have to cut away the infected tissue, and leave it open. The doctor also called it a cleft lift. My mom helped me pack it full of gauze for about two weeks. Does this help?
 

Johnathan Irons

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I got the cyst back in March. Didn't go to the doctor for a month or so. Finally went and was referred to a surgical clinic near the town I live in. When I went to go see my doctor, he said that it was more of an abscess than a cyst. More of a sinus, an opening into the body. He then suggested me taking baths more than once a day for about an hour. When that didn't work, I went back in and he told me that the only option was surgery. So, there were two options. Close and open surgery. Closed, because my cyst/sinus was so big, wasn't really an option. So he told me that he would have to cut away the infected tissue, and leave it open. The doctor also called it a cleft lift. My mom helped me pack it full of gauze for about two weeks. Does this help?
Ah from what you're saying there..... It sounds like he told you a cleft lift is an open surgery.
Open surgery is wide excision with secondary healing (healing from inside and packing).
Cleft lift is completely different - very few surgeons seem to be actual specialists with it. Some surgeon do variations and still call them cleft lifts. There is no packing for a cleft lift. It is a type of closed surgery.

So you're still getting it packed?
 

Onesorelady

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Ah from what you're saying there..... It sounds like he told you a cleft lift is an open surgery.
Open surgery is wide excision with secondary healing (healing from inside and packing).
Cleft lift is completely different - very few surgeons seem to be actual specialists with it. Some surgeon do variations and still call them cleft lifts. There is no packing for a cleft lift. It is a type of closed surgery.

So you're still getting it packed?
Oh no. This surgery was back in August. But I have two "sinuses" and it's opened up. Both of them. I have immense pain and blood and pus.
 

Johnathan Irons

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Okay, so you had a abscess? Got it removed via open excision. Had it packed. It healed, but now you're left with two sinuses that are draining and are painful?

I havent tried them but people are using Epsom salts in a bath and swear by it for pain relief. I know you tried baths already but if you haven't tried them I would give it a go.

Where are you based? I would recommend seeing a real cleft lift specialist and get this sorted once and for all. Cleft lift will cause minimum pain, quicker recovery and better cosmetic appearance.
There's a hall of fame on here for doctor who perform the surgery. Find one closest who has a good reputation doing it and book a consultation.
You may have to travel some distance but trust me its worth it.
 

Onesorelady

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I'll try the Epsom salt, thanks. I'm not entirely sure how far I could go. I don't have a vechicle of my own. I am currently sharing it with people who go to school during the day. College, so they can't just stop going for a day or so. I don't really have an resources job wise. I had to quit mine when this opened up because walking irritates it. So... But thank you for the idea. I'll definitely check it out.
 

Johnathan Irons

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I'll try the Epsom salt, thanks. I'm not entirely sure how far I could go. I don't have a vechicle of my own. I am currently sharing it with people who go to school during the day. College, so they can't just stop going for a day or so. I don't really have an resources job wise. I had to quit mine when this opened up because walking irritates it. So... But thank you for the idea. I'll definitely check it out.
Look after yourself :)
 

Robert Eden

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So, there were two options. Close and open surgery. Closed, because my cyst/sinus was so big, wasn't really an option. So he told me that he would have to cut away the infected tissue, and leave it open. The doctor also called it a cleft lift. My mom helped me pack it full of gauze for about two weeks. Does this help?
Your doctor either lied to you or was ignorant. You had an open excision, not a cleft lift. That explains the recurrence. Sorry. Find a good cleft lift doc! Your doc should be removed from the "Hall of Fame" list if for nothing else, misleading a patient.
 

BrianS

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I'll try the Epsom salt, thanks. I'm not entirely sure how far I could go. I don't have a vechicle of my own. I am currently sharing it with people who go to school during the day. College, so they can't just stop going for a day or so. I don't really have an resources job wise. I had to quit mine when this opened up because walking irritates it. So... But thank you for the idea. I'll definitely check it out.
Where in the country are you located?
 

BrianS

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I am located in the US. Idaho.
Have you looked at the Surgeon Hall of Fame section yet? If you have the ability to travel, I HIGHLY recommend looking into Dr. Bascom in Oregon. He and his father pioneered the cleft lift years ago and he is one of the best surgeons out there, recommended by several people on this forum.
 
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