Cleft Lift 02/08/2019 Recovery (Dr. Immerman)

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My son had the cleft lift with Dr. Immerman 2 months ago. Anyone here experience leaking from the top of the incision? It happens occasionally and I'm concerned. Other than that, the surgery went really well. We traveled from the metro Boston area for him to have the surgery performed by Dr. Immerman. Worth the trip. But I am concerned about the leaking and would love to hear if anyone else experienced this 2 months post op. By the way, my son is 20, athletic and this was his first and only procedure for the cyst. thanks for the help.
I can't give you the best advice on it, as I'm in the uk but I have read from others who had the cleft lift that if there is a lot of leakage it might be infected and antibiotics will clear it up quickly and some leakage is normal, it takes a full 5 months to fully heal.
 

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Thanks for the thoughts, I really do appreciate them. I was in touch with Dr. Immerman who recommended a vitamin C serum be applied twice a day to the scar. My son realized that it was his scar that was leaking not the cyst. So I'm praying this heals up nicely. Other than that, the operation was a success. I will keep everyone on this forum posted.
 

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Thanks for the thoughts, I really do appreciate them. I was in touch with Dr. Immerman who recommended a vitamin C serum be applied twice a day to the scar. My son realized that it was his scar that was leaking not the cyst. So I'm praying this heals up nicely. Other than that, the operation was a success. I will keep everyone on this forum posted.
I will be getting my cleft lift soon on 10th of April but in the uk I will be curious how it goes for me
 

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Good luck. I will say that we waited 3 years to have the surgery for my son. If you're young and have never had surgery on the cyst, my guess is that it should go pretty well. I hope so.
 

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Good luck. I will say that we waited 3 years to have the surgery for my son. If you're young and have never had surgery on the cyst, my guess is that it should go pretty well. I hope so.
Thanks it will be my 4th surgery as unfortunately I had 3 failed surgery's before, this will be my first ever cleft lift to put an end to it for good I've read a lot of positives on here so I can't wait to hopefully have a normal life again
 

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Oh wow, I'm so sorry. That really stinks. By posting that, you have no doubt saved another person from suffering the same fate. So in a weird way, thanks. Because when I was researching all this for my son (he was a senior in high school when the cyst first happened), it was reading about the failed surgeries that caused us to wait. And then we researched who was the right person to perform the surgery. This forum and the folks who put the information out there were invaluable to me. I really do hope this ends the issues for you. Be well.
 

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Oh wow, I'm so sorry. That really stinks. By posting that, you have no doubt saved another person from suffering the same fate. So in a weird way, thanks. Because when I was researching all this for my son (he was a senior in high school when the cyst first happened), it was reading about the failed surgeries that caused us to wait. And then we researched who was the right person to perform the surgery. This forum and the folks who put the information out there were invaluable to me. I really do hope this ends the issues for you. Be well.
Yeah you did the right thing waiting for you're son, to have cleft lift so many surgeon's who perform the wrong surgery's cutting out huge chunks is not the way to go, cleft lift has 99% heal rate, I wished I knew about it year's ago, I would of healed by now, but I'm ready I can't wait for the 10th of April for my cleft lift I will be posting on here how it went, and my recovery time after year's of pain I can't wait to sit down on plane's trains ect ect without being in agony I recommend everyone suffering out there cleft lift is the only way to go all the good people on here and yourself have all helped me decide the best cure I'm so glad I read everything on here
 

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Yeah you did the right thing waiting for you're son, to have cleft lift so many surgeon's who perform the wrong surgery's cutting out huge chunks is not the way to go, cleft lift has 99% heal rate, I wished I knew about it year's ago, I would of healed by now, but I'm ready I can't wait for the 10th of April for my cleft lift I will be posting on here how it went, and my recovery time after year's of pain I can't wait to sit down on plane's trains ect ect without being in agony I recommend everyone suffering out there cleft lift is the only way to go all the good people on here and yourself have all helped me decide the best cure I'm so glad I read everything on here

hi, I’m UK based as well. I’m new to this forum but sadly not new to the pilonidal disease. I’ve been to GP multiple times but only got referred to a surgeon when a sinus had developed. I had a date scheduled for December last year, but then the lockdown happened again and my surgery got cancelled... Which might be a good thing cause the NHS surgeon just want to do an incision, and close it right in the middle which has got a high reoccurrence rate.
In the meantime I’ve seen a specialist privately, Miss A. Senapati, who offers a cleft closure - is it the same as cleft lift? I’ve got much more trust in her as she’s knows there’s more to this disease than just cutting it out. My main issue is money - it costs over £2000 plus again the pandemic- even the private hospitals are not taking patients at the moment ... it’s horrific to be stuck in constant discomfort and embarrassment, and no one can help me really until the pandemic eases. I’m getting married in October and want to start trying for a baby afterwards so definitely the sinus needs to be gone by then
 

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hi, I’m UK based as well. I’m new to this forum but sadly not new to the pilonidal disease. I’ve been to GP multiple times but only got referred to a surgeon when a sinus had developed. I had a date scheduled for December last year, but then the lockdown happened again and my surgery got cancelled... Which might be a good thing cause the NHS surgeon just want to do an incision, and close it right in the middle which has got a high reoccurrence rate.
In the meantime I’ve seen a specialist privately, Miss A. Senapati, who offers a cleft closure - is it the same as cleft lift? I’ve got much more trust in her as she’s knows there’s more to this disease than just cutting it out. My main issue is money - it costs over £2000 plus again the pandemic- even the private hospitals are not taking patients at the moment ... it’s horrific to be stuck in constant discomfort and embarrassment, and no one can help me really until the pandemic eases. I’m getting married in October and want to start trying for a baby afterwards so definitely the sinus needs to be gone by then
Hi it is the same as cleft lift, Asha Senapati is seeing patients again now, but only at Spire Portsmouth Hospital, you can see her at St Marks hospital but you will have 1 year wait unfortunately because of the huge back log of patients, yeah the lockdown hasn't helped but we are gradually coming out of restrictions now and Spire is now reopening and seeing patients again, I'm booked in for cleft lift surgery with her on the 10th of April my insurance company Is paying for everything the cleft lift on it's own it's actually only £300 the other costs Is the 1 night hospital stay, the operation can be done as a Day Case patient mine was going to be a day case but I told them I wanted the 1 night hospital stay.

If you can afford to have it done as a Day Case only, and come home on the same day I recommend cleft lift to anyone it has 99% heal rate and I can't wait to finally put an end my wound on the 10th of April
 

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Hi it is the same as cleft lift, Asha Senapati is seeing patients again now, but only at Spire Portsmouth Hospital, you can see her at St Marks hospital but you will have 1 year wait unfortunately because of the huge back log of patients, yeah the lockdown hasn't helped but we are gradually coming out of restrictions now and Spire is now reopening and seeing patients again, I'm booked in for cleft lift surgery with her on the 10th of April my insurance company Is paying for everything the cleft lift on it's own it's actually only £300 the other costs Is the 1 night hospital stay, the operation can be done as a Day Case patient mine was going to be a day case but I told them I wanted the 1 night hospital stay. If you can afford to have it done as a Day Case only, and come home on the same day I recommend cleft lift to anyone it has 99% heal rate and I can't wait to finally put an end my wound on the 10th of April

Ive emailed her assistant a couple of weeks ago but she said she’s going to resume operations in a months time. That’s great to hear, I wish I had the insurance before I had the pilonidal cyst. if I take one now it won’t cover any pre existing conditions, including the cyst I suppose so I need to go as a self funding patient...
But to be fair at this point I’m happy to pay whatever to have it done once and for all. The NHS method would be good if they did it two years ago, when I only had a small opening. They told me it’s not infected so we won’t operate, just monitor it. Fast forward two years later I’ve got a full blown leaking discharge 24/7 sinus...
Miss Senapati told me though that she’d first like to put me on antibiotics to clear the infection but it’s been leaking since last May, antibiotics did not help one bit. I hope she’ll still go ahead with the procedure.
Good luck with your surgery and please keep us posted, especially worried about the recovery time.
 

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Ive emailed her assistant a couple of weeks ago but she said she’s going to resume operations in a months time. That’s great to hear, I wish I had the insurance before I had the pilonidal cyst. if I take one now it won’t cover any pre existing conditions, including the cyst I suppose so I need to go as a self funding patient...
But to be fair at this point I’m happy to pay whatever to have it done once and for all. The NHS method would be good if they did it two years ago, when I only had a small opening. They told me it’s not infected so we won’t operate, just monitor it. Fast forward two years later I’ve got a full blown leaking discharge 24/7 sinus...
Miss Senapati told me though that she’d first like to put me on antibiotics to clear the infection but it’s been leaking since last May, antibiotics did not help one bit. I hope she’ll still go ahead with the procedure.
Good luck with your surgery and please keep us posted, especially worried about the recovery time.
Sorry to hear you're suffering so much, my case is just my wound keeps reopening, and won't heal after 3 failed, operations don't ever get open operations, 100% cleft lift all the way no amount of dressings will ever heal it, best antibiotics I find to clear up the infection is metronidazole 400mg 3xs a day I had a bit of infection 2 week's ago, and it fully cleared it up, I would get the nurses to temporarily pack it for you, with sorbasant not aquacel as aquacel makes it bleed more, I'm having daily dressings with the nurses until I have my operation, my wound is nice and clean and quite shallow now, but I still need the cleft lift operation otherwise I will just go backwards again, and it will reopen up again.

I would try to get asha senapati Secretary to try book you in for next month, but in the meantime just get you're gp nurse's to pack it for you, it will ease it down until you have your surgery, done.

As I say you can have the cleft lift done as a Day Case patient and it be a lot cheaper as you're only paying for cleft lift only, which is £300 I will post my full experience on how my operation went on the 10th of April how much pain I'm in and my recovery time,
 

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Sorry to hear you're suffering so much, my case is just my wound keeps reopening, and won't heal after 3 failed, operations don't ever get open operations, 100% cleft lift all the way no amount of dressings will ever heal it, best antibiotics I find to clear up the infection is metronidazole 400mg 3xs a day I had a bit of infection 2 week's ago, and it fully cleared it up, I would get the nurses to temporarily pack it for you, with sorbasant not aquacel as aquacel makes it bleed more, I'm having daily dressings with the nurses until I have my operation, my wound is nice and clean and quite shallow now, but I still need the cleft lift operation otherwise I will just go backwards again, and it will reopen up again.

I would try to get asha senapati Secretary to try book you in for next month, but in the meantime just get you're gp nurse's to pack it for you, it will ease it down until you have your surgery, done.

As I say you can have the cleft lift done as a Day Case patient and it be a lot cheaper as you're only paying for cleft lift only, which is £300 I will post my full experience on how my operation went on the 10th of April how much pain I'm in and my recovery time,
Hope it all goes well tomorrow
 

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Hope it all goes well tomorrow
Thanks bit nervous now, I've requested it be done under spinal anesthesia they will discuss it Tomorrow I just don't like being put to sleep sooner it's over the better It be interesting to see my pain levels after the operation
 

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Hope it all goes well tomorrow
It's done over with done and dusted the operation lasted approx 45 mins to 1hr I had it done under spinal anesthesia she shaved the area cut away the dead infected tissue and a drain is in place I can't feel nothing until my anesthesia wears off in 2hrs the drain needs to be removed on Wed's I will update my Road to recovery in a couple of weeks
 

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It's done over with done and dusted the operation lasted approx 45 mins to 1hr I had it done under spinal anesthesia she shaved the area cut away the dead infected tissue and a drain is in place I can't feel nothing until my anesthesia wears off in 2hrs the drain needs to be removed on Wed's I will update my Road to recovery in a couple of weeks
That’s good to hear. Wishing you fast and painless recovery. Are you able to lay on your back after the surgery?
 

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That’s good to hear. Wishing you fast and painless recovery. Are you able to lay on your back after the surgery?
I am indeed I can't move a muscle lol my legs are dead lol 2hrs until I gain movement I asked her if I need lay on my side with the drain she said no doesn't matter can lay on you're back the drain has to come out after 5 day's and the operation can be done under spinal or general I preferred to be awake during it
 

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I am indeed I can't move a muscle lol my legs are dead lol 2hrs until I gain movement I asked her if I need lay on my side with the drain she said no doesn't matter can lay on you're back the drain has to come out after 5 day's and the operation can be done under spinal or general I preferred to be awake during it
How bad is the pain after couple of hours?
 

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How bad is the pain after couple of hours?
How bad is the pain after couple of hours?
For cleft lift very painful, I'm on strong pain killer's I can't move out of my hospital bed, the pain might ease down in a couple of day's but with this drain in place it's a struggle nurse's had to help me get to the bathroom which is right next to my bed. Some people mentioned the pain was minimal I don't see how as I can't walk but every patient is different but there's no way I could do the operation as a Day Case need the 1 night hospital stay.

I've been given antibiotics as well and gotta complete the course tomorrow I be checking into a local bed and breakfast 3 mins from the hospital I hope things are easier once the drain is removed
 

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For cleft lift very painful, I'm on strong pain killer's I can't move out of my hospital bed, the pain might ease down in a couple of day's but with this drain in place it's a struggle nurse's had to help me get to the bathroom which is right next to my bed. Some people mentioned the pain was minimal I don't see how as I can't walk but every patient is different but there's no way I could do the operation as a Day Case need the 1 night hospital stay.

I've been given antibiotics as well and gotta complete the course tomorrow I be checking into a local bed and breakfast 3 mins from the hospital I hope things are easier once the drain is removed
Sorry to hear this! I think because it’s such a sensitive area, having an abscess there hurts like hell, so an incision and drain must feel sore as well. The first 24 hrs are usually the worst in any surgery, so I hope it gets better by tomorrow....
How do you find the doctors and staff? Do you have to pay extra for the overnight stay?
 

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Sorry to hear this! I think because it’s such a sensitive area, having an abscess there hurts like hell, so an incision and drain must feel sore as well. The first 24 hrs are usually the worst in any surgery, so I hope it gets better by tomorrow....
How do you find the doctors and staff? Do you have to pay extra for the overnight stay?
Asha Senapati is very strict she wants it done her way, so you have to be prepared for that, but well she is the best at what she does, the doctor's and nurse's have been fantastic I couldn't ask for better nursing team even the anesthesia team we're brilliant I told them I didn't want it done under general anaesthetic as I hate being put to sleep and straight away they happily agreed with me.

My insurance company is paying for the 1 night hospital stay but I had to fight for them to cover it they wasn't at first until I argued it needs 1 night but if you're insurance won't pay than self fund is £150 a night I would check out the local bed and breakfast called jingles 3 mins from the hospital £69 a night free breakfast and you're allowed to order takeaway meals at the bed and breakfast
 
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