Bonzo...I had emailed the makers of this product...Boiron. And I was told that taking this alternative has no side effects. When you get the product, you can usually pick up a brochure with it as well and it also says that these products will not hurt you. Its Silicea 6C and Hepar Sulphuris 6C. If you would like to try this, you should call around your health food stores, chances are they do sell it.
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Trying an Alternative to Surgery
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No idea about GNC. I'd try a regular health food store and call them first to see if they carry homeopathic medicines. Or you can order it thru Amazon.com which is what I'm about to do.
I am interested in alternative therapies of keeping the growth from coming back. I just had the surgery to remove the sinus 5 days ago. (It was about the size of a pingpong ball) I have a tube in it right now that will help with the draining. But I have been informed that this has a high posibility of coming back. I wanted to know if anyone had any alternative therabies to simply popping antibiotics for the rest of my life.
I will tell you what my progress has been in the last couple of days. As I stated in another post, the Silicea helps break down the cyst and helps it get absorbed into your body. In the last two days, I havent had any milky or clear drainage. I have had tissue and lots of blood. I have been changing my dressings about 3 times in a day. Every time I bleed its because there is tissue making its way out of the sinus opening. A little over a week ago, I finally found my cyst, this treatment that I've been using has raised the cyst to the top of the skin, it was never there before. In the last few days, the cyst has moved its way down. As of right now its maybe a .25 of an inch from the opening, when I first noticed the cyst, it was about 1 to 1 1/2 inches away from the opening.
I'm not going to get baited into another blow out arguement. Surgery might be a quick procedure, but recovery is NOT. And any time you have surgery and are put under, you always have the chance of not waking up. Not trying to scare anyone, but a doctor will tell you the risk when having surgery. When it comes to a surgical procedure anything can go wrong. So, why not try something that is less evasive.
Woody, have you tried this alternative method? If not, how do you know it wont work as well? Everyones circumstances are different, for me, this was the best choice, although I have never been in any pain
quote:why extend the pain with things that dont work as well?
Woody, have you tried this alternative method? If not, how do you know it wont work as well? Everyones circumstances are different, for me, this was the best choice, although I have never been in any pain
yes i have .. and i have read about people that tried and people that have had it work.. on this board i have seen maybe 5 people come and go that actually had an alternative work and how do you know that an alternative is a permanent fix?
if its not then you would ( i assume) be on alternative healing for a lifetime? so .. lets weigh it up..
an op.. 1 day.. 3 months (ish)healing on average?
alternative therapy - on going.. ???
im sorry but im still opting for the proved method of surgery..
the only place i can see for alternative medicines is in the interim between diagnosis and operation date..
thats my honest opinion
if its not then you would ( i assume) be on alternative healing for a lifetime? so .. lets weigh it up..
an op.. 1 day.. 3 months (ish)healing on average?
alternative therapy - on going.. ???
im sorry but im still opting for the proved method of surgery..
the only place i can see for alternative medicines is in the interim between diagnosis and operation date..
thats my honest opinion
Woody, It would be just like surgery. If the alternative works for you , then you take it until the cyst is gone and then stop taking it. If it comes back then you take it again.
Havent you figured it out yet woody. With a Pilonidal cyst there is no such thing as a permanent fix. But if the alternative works, I'd much rather do it then surgery, and then the recovery time. With the alternative there is no recovery time. The only negative is having to have a dressing on it all day, but it wont stop you from doing anything else that a recovery from surgery would. Woody, if this does work, what it will do is break up the cyst, it will either leave through your sinus opening that drains or it will be absorbed into your body.
Woody you say you have tried this? When did you try this? I dont recall you ever making a statement about this alternative before. Were you taking it with Water, or with Juice?
Its amazing woody, because the post above you stated that you have tried this particular alternative treatment. But throughout this entire thread you have only one post on it other than the two above directed at me. And in that post you were quoting another member.
I would think that if someone was going to try this, they would have comments or questions or something on this thread. And not to mention, I went back throughout all your posts and you have already had 2 surgeries, so when exactly did YOU try this alternative???
Havent you figured it out yet woody. With a Pilonidal cyst there is no such thing as a permanent fix. But if the alternative works, I'd much rather do it then surgery, and then the recovery time. With the alternative there is no recovery time. The only negative is having to have a dressing on it all day, but it wont stop you from doing anything else that a recovery from surgery would. Woody, if this does work, what it will do is break up the cyst, it will either leave through your sinus opening that drains or it will be absorbed into your body.
Woody you say you have tried this? When did you try this? I dont recall you ever making a statement about this alternative before. Were you taking it with Water, or with Juice?
Its amazing woody, because the post above you stated that you have tried this particular alternative treatment. But throughout this entire thread you have only one post on it other than the two above directed at me. And in that post you were quoting another member.
I would think that if someone was going to try this, they would have comments or questions or something on this thread. And not to mention, I went back throughout all your posts and you have already had 2 surgeries, so when exactly did YOU try this alternative???
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I've just read through the complete thread and feel that there are some things that I can contribute to.
I've had my pilonidal cyst for just over a year now. The cyst (and sinus) are located at the top of my buttocks to the left of the cleft. Recently, I have developed another sinus in the cleft (see Tea Tree oil below) The size of the the lump is about 1cm across. My surgery is scheduled for 12th August with a pre-operative assessment on 2nd august.
Tea Tree Oil: Bought from The Body Shop in the UK. When I started to use tea tree oil, it cleared up the majority of the infection (puss, etc) in a couple of days and within two weeks it had closed the wound. However, the lump was still there. I then stopped using the tea tree oil and after a couple more weeks it would get infected again. I repeated this process about four times until I developed another sinus. What I think happened was that the Tea Tree oil cleared the infection enough for the top of the wound to heal. This forces the cyst to spread out and eventually create another sinus. Not really what I wanted! The thing about tea tree is that it is very potent stuff when used neat (which is what I did). I found that it stung quite a bit/alot and also dried out the surrounding skin making it itchy.
Naturally I want to reduce the problem so that the surgery is less severe.
Homeopathic remedies (I'll call them HRs): I've always been a bit wary of homeopathic remedies. The active part of it is diluted so much that I wonder how it can do anything. There are many theories about how it all works, none proven, yet people still swear by HRs. I am, however, a firm believer in mind over matter, healthy mind-healthy body, blah blah blah. Unfortunately, it appears that my mind is not yet strong enough to tell my cyst to heal. If I can take an HR that will persuade my mind to start healing my body (psychosomatic) or heal because of the active ingredient, I am willing to give them a go. I will take a silicea until my surgery.
Silicea 6C can be bought from larger Boots stores in the UK (about 4 quid for 84 pilules) Or online http://www.boots.com/shop/category_new_template.jsp?classificationid=374. Apparently Boots are now in the States? Anyway, My one query is that I have read and heard that only one HR should be taken at a time (I.e. either Silicea or Hepar Sulphuris, not both)?
I've had my pilonidal cyst for just over a year now. The cyst (and sinus) are located at the top of my buttocks to the left of the cleft. Recently, I have developed another sinus in the cleft (see Tea Tree oil below) The size of the the lump is about 1cm across. My surgery is scheduled for 12th August with a pre-operative assessment on 2nd august.
Tea Tree Oil: Bought from The Body Shop in the UK. When I started to use tea tree oil, it cleared up the majority of the infection (puss, etc) in a couple of days and within two weeks it had closed the wound. However, the lump was still there. I then stopped using the tea tree oil and after a couple more weeks it would get infected again. I repeated this process about four times until I developed another sinus. What I think happened was that the Tea Tree oil cleared the infection enough for the top of the wound to heal. This forces the cyst to spread out and eventually create another sinus. Not really what I wanted! The thing about tea tree is that it is very potent stuff when used neat (which is what I did). I found that it stung quite a bit/alot and also dried out the surrounding skin making it itchy.
Naturally I want to reduce the problem so that the surgery is less severe.
Homeopathic remedies (I'll call them HRs): I've always been a bit wary of homeopathic remedies. The active part of it is diluted so much that I wonder how it can do anything. There are many theories about how it all works, none proven, yet people still swear by HRs. I am, however, a firm believer in mind over matter, healthy mind-healthy body, blah blah blah. Unfortunately, it appears that my mind is not yet strong enough to tell my cyst to heal. If I can take an HR that will persuade my mind to start healing my body (psychosomatic) or heal because of the active ingredient, I am willing to give them a go. I will take a silicea until my surgery.
Silicea 6C can be bought from larger Boots stores in the UK (about 4 quid for 84 pilules) Or online http://www.boots.com/shop/category_new_template.jsp?classificationid=374. Apparently Boots are now in the States? Anyway, My one query is that I have read and heard that only one HR should be taken at a time (I.e. either Silicea or Hepar Sulphuris, not both)?
Uk_Man....I was told to take both the Silicea and Hepar sulphuris together. But make sure I give time inbetween each dosage so they dont interrupt one another. The Silicea and Hepar Sulphuris are the most effective and common Homeopathic remedy for treating abcesses, boils, cysts. Each one will do something a little different. But both will help in the aide of healing from the inside, which is what you want to happen.
I've heard good things from tea tree oil, but like you experienced healing it from the outside just causes you more problems. I dont know alot about tea tree oil, is it something that is taken topical only, or is there a form that can be taken orally? Because if there is a type of it that can be taken orally, it might be benificial. Apparently you did have good results from putting it on directly, but its just not the way this cyst needs to heal.
Also...when taking the Silicea...make sure you take it 3 times a day, 5 pellots at a time. And dont brush your teeth, drink water, eat or have anything in your mouth for 10-15 minutes prior and after use. And make sure you dont touch the silicea with your hands. Just put it in the cap,and then put it in your mouth under your tongue
I've heard good things from tea tree oil, but like you experienced healing it from the outside just causes you more problems. I dont know alot about tea tree oil, is it something that is taken topical only, or is there a form that can be taken orally? Because if there is a type of it that can be taken orally, it might be benificial. Apparently you did have good results from putting it on directly, but its just not the way this cyst needs to heal.
Also...when taking the Silicea...make sure you take it 3 times a day, 5 pellots at a time. And dont brush your teeth, drink water, eat or have anything in your mouth for 10-15 minutes prior and after use. And make sure you dont touch the silicea with your hands. Just put it in the cap,and then put it in your mouth under your tongue
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Wow, I can't believe the fact that so many people don't even address the fact that JT has found something else that works for him. This "woody" character doesn't even post on the subject. I myself am finding it almost comical for the amount of irrelevancy that he is posting, and not even mentioning anything about pilonidal cysts in the past few posts.
Now, let me address the subject. I myself have had 2 occurrances of Pilonidal Cysts, and treated both with Excise Surgery. The second occurrance I believe was a result of the first surgery not completely closing up. Nonetheless, I was cut open about 2 months after the first. The recovery on the second surgery was brutal as I believe I was given way too much anesthesiology and as a result spent the night in the hospital. I was laid up for 1 week in bed after surgery and couldn't be fully functional for 1 month. That scares the hell out of me as I am now seeing signs of yet another infection.
I just read this article http://www.pilonidal.org/surgery/bascom.pdf and will be addressing it to my surgeon in the next few days when I see him, but if there are any alternatives to surgery I'm very open minded and willing to try them out, as surgery SUCKS! Anyways, I've read all pages of this thread and will conitnue to do so, as I will always keep my eyes out for alternative methods. Thank you.
Now, let me address the subject. I myself have had 2 occurrances of Pilonidal Cysts, and treated both with Excise Surgery. The second occurrance I believe was a result of the first surgery not completely closing up. Nonetheless, I was cut open about 2 months after the first. The recovery on the second surgery was brutal as I believe I was given way too much anesthesiology and as a result spent the night in the hospital. I was laid up for 1 week in bed after surgery and couldn't be fully functional for 1 month. That scares the hell out of me as I am now seeing signs of yet another infection.
I just read this article http://www.pilonidal.org/surgery/bascom.pdf and will be addressing it to my surgeon in the next few days when I see him, but if there are any alternatives to surgery I'm very open minded and willing to try them out, as surgery SUCKS! Anyways, I've read all pages of this thread and will conitnue to do so, as I will always keep my eyes out for alternative methods. Thank you.
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Hey JT. My computer had been down for quite a while so I have no idea what this "fight" is all about. All I have to say is I enjoy reading about your progress and I hope it works for other people. As of today, five hours ago I had my surgery just to end this whole miserable process of draining and all the fun shit that comes with it. I hope this can be an alternative for some so they don't actually have to go through with surgery, but if they do, it is not as bad as I thought it would be (so far). Please keep on posting so there can be hope for others as well as yourself. Just put all the petty differences aside and ignore what people say to you. You are doing a great service of letting people know about this alternative and I for one appreciate it.
Stefrasser....Good luck with your healing progress, I hope the best for you. I will continue to inform as many as I can on my progress with this. Thank you for actually trying this treatment, even though it got better while taking this, I'm glad to see that you dont have to worry about it for a while atleast. Good luck again to you.
Hank, I have never been to the doctor about my cyst. Self diagnosed myself. Had this for a couple of years and then one day I stumbled upon the pilonidal cyst on the internet and figured out thats what I have. I have NEVER had any infection, and the only inflammation i've had is from the drainage. The drainage tends to irritate the skin a bit.
Hank, I have never been to the doctor about my cyst. Self diagnosed myself. Had this for a couple of years and then one day I stumbled upon the pilonidal cyst on the internet and figured out thats what I have. I have NEVER had any infection, and the only inflammation i've had is from the drainage. The drainage tends to irritate the skin a bit.
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